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Post by xxxendoxxx on Nov 7, 2021 18:43:38 GMT
what's popping fwslers, it's your boy EndHistory
Alright, so I know I've been a prick regarding the servers along with my brother, from evading a shit load of bans to sometimes talking shit to the staff as well. It has been almost half a year or even more since we last joined the game due to its deadness, so then we realized it's literally nothing without FWS's servers and not worth even playing.
We'd like to apologize for the inconveniences that we've caused and would like to get given a second chance I guess. Furthermore if either of us broke a rule intentionally then I ask of you to ban us again without hesitation, using common sense ofcourse. We won't be fucking around with any staff nor freekilling or flaming others.
In-game name (when you were banned): endo
U.S.G.N. ID: 143332, also my whole country
Server: Fws jail, Fws doghouse. Or all of them ion know
Logs/Screenshots to support your ban: pretty sure i'm too famous for this
What happened that got you banned: insulting?
When you got banned (We need dates, "last month", "2 years ago", etc won't cut it): 2 years ago
At last I'd like to apologize to the administrators and for the trouble we've caused them.
I made a severe and continuous lapse in my judgement, and I don’t expect to be forgiven. I’m simply here to apologise.
What we came across in the servers that day was obviously unplanned. The rule breaks and ban evasions you saw in game were raw; they were unfiltered. None of us knew how to react or how to feel. I should have never played like this. I should have put the high horse down and stopped messing with what we were going through.
There's a lot of things I should have done differently but I didn't. And for that, from the bottom of my heart, I am sorry.
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Post by NoTy on Nov 7, 2021 18:46:53 GMT
Rejected.
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Post by Ploggy on Nov 7, 2021 19:51:22 GMT
damn this is harsh if he was banned for insulting, I think he deserve his second chance
can this decision be revised
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Post by Furkan on Nov 7, 2021 20:08:02 GMT
damn this is harsh if he was banned for insulting, I think he deserve his second chance can this decision be revised Based, he was ban evading a lot of times, I don't even remember what reason he was banned in the first place though. I banned him multiple times - I currently do not know what he's been upto but if he stopped his rogue actions, this might have been ended good honestly with chance of %1. If we check the entire ban list, I can say %25 of it would be endo himself and his brother. They've been very rogue and kept this behaviour. As I've mentioned before I really don't know if he decided to stop or not, if he did then that's a great sign. Well if not, then just move on because it will be waste of time. Decision is upto Administrators but if I had chance to give verdict of this appeal, if he decided to stop rulebreaking like a period of time and appealed for his ban, I would have gave him the second chance without hesitation. |
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Post by Ploggy on Nov 7, 2021 20:35:06 GMT
I agree with furkan here and I also wanted to add that banevading is forgivabe in some circumstances so that should be kept in mind I think
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Post by xxxendoxxx on Nov 8, 2021 15:11:13 GMT
damn this is harsh if he was banned for insulting, I think he deserve his second chance can this decision be revised Based, he was ban evading a lot of times, I don't even remember what reason he was banned in the first place though. I banned him multiple times - I currently do not know what he's been upto but if he stopped his rogue actions, this might have been ended good honestly with chance of %1. If we check the entire ban list, I can say %25 of it would be endo himself and his brother. They've been very rogue and kept this behaviour. As I've mentioned before I really don't know if he decided to stop or not, if he did then that's a great sign. Well if not, then just move on because it will be waste of time. Decision is upto Administrators but if I had chance to give verdict of this appeal, if he decided to stop rulebreaking like a period of time and appealed for his ban, I would have gave him the second chance without hesitation. As I said, I promised not to fuck around and have not been doing so for the past year or so. I mean obviously I won't be a dumbfuck and get unbanned just to break the rules how would that benefit anyone? A second chance won't hurt. Cheers thanks for love |
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Post by Mami Tomoe on Nov 8, 2021 16:07:24 GMT
I promised not to fuck around and have not been doing so for the past year or so. You can't do that if your country is banned. I'm fairly certain that you only regret doing what you did due to the fact that you have no other choice. The only reason you stopped was because you were "beaten". You're applying for selfish reasons, just know that we all* know that you couldn't care less about being banned or not if the "country ban" wasn't a thing. * People with knowledge of the last couple months and common sense. |
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Post by xxxendoxxx on Nov 9, 2021 12:25:40 GMT
I promised not to fuck around and have not been doing so for the past year or so. You can't do that if your country is banned. I'm fairly certain that you only regret doing what you did due to the fact that you have no other choice. The only reason you stopped was because you were "beaten". You're applying for selfish reasons, just know that we all* know that you couldn't care less about being banned or not if the "country ban" wasn't a thing. * People with knowledge of the last couple months and common sense. To begin with I feel my initial ban was unjustified, as I recall I was only back-talking to an administrator which should atleast be punished with a mute or so. Otherwise I have never done something that is really harmful like a mass freekill or hacking. Hence, getting banned for something vague like insulting is why I began evading. So whether I could evade bans or not doesn't matter at all. Nontheless being selfish doesn't really matter, what matters is that I apologized for what I've done and will not break any further rules. |
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Post by NoTy on Nov 12, 2021 11:14:28 GMT
Hello EndHistory.
We owe you an explication and also to the others since "Rejected" was not the right way to answer.
First of all, your story is very known by all active staff members. You influenced your brother to join our FWS servers and break as many rules as possible. That is unacceptable. You and him were on a 1-2 months Free-Killing spree, none of you had any intention to stop or apologize, you guys kept ruining everyone's experience for 2 months straight. Your actions are much worse than cheating. We sometimes had to spent full hours camping for you guys to avoid breaking any other rule. You guys have caused a ton until a point we finally banned the whole country from playing, as Slowpoke said, you guys wouldn't have stopped if it wasn't for that country ban, we could've witnessed it until this day, and the probability was high enough knowing you. We gave enough second chances, but we've never seen such case before except for 1 person. We've decided that you guys will never be unbanned again and it's gonna stay this way unless we ever change our mind. We appreciate your apology and the fact that you sorted it out, finally acknowledged your mistakes. It's too soon for unban.
Make sure to keep on improving and maybe one day you'll be unbanned again. There are many ways to gain our trust back and one of them can be done on discord. It's a very long road, but at the moment, your history has come to an end on the FWS servers.
Yours,
The -[IFwsI]- Administration Team
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Post by Ploggy on Nov 12, 2021 14:10:31 GMT
in endhistory's defense, this would not have happened if you talked with endo about the ban and unbanned him but you chose to meet him with brute force and went on banning spree against him which meant that you didn't care about stopping this in a reasonable way. I'd not say this if this was a random player but endo isn't a stranger to any of you, he has been here long enough so that you could put away your hammer of authority for a second and talk to him normally
I dontk now what he was originally banned for but assuming that it was for insulting then that is a very broad reason for ban because different people would have different understanding of what's an insult and different moderators might see different 'insults' as banworthy unlike for example hacking which is an obvious rulebreak which people get banned for. and again assuming that endo isn't lying and he was back-talking to administrator and got banned from there then in all fairness you're asking him to come to forum and apologize and ask for unban because he was being mean to person who'd later ban him with most improbable reason of banning people. most people wouldn't wanna apologize for that and that seems clear, hence why he might've chosen to bypass his ban. this is my input here
Greetings
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Post by NoTy on Nov 12, 2021 15:50:54 GMT
We do not ban without letting that person know why he got banned. We've warned them numerous times, but how do you handle the "stfu bitch" in return? There was no way to have a proper conversation, he is aware that he made his brother his puppet, they were both just kidding around and being toxic until they went to the major rule-breaks ~ Mass Free-Killing/Insulting/Kicking people out of the server/Very toxic toward the staff members, and they eventually got banned for 1 day which was for nothing since they ban evaded right away and kept doing the same thing.
Endo at that time was there to troll around, stress the mods out and also ruin people's experience on the server, I personally won't bother to talk to such people, there was no sign of improvement or willing to improve as they kept breaking most rules, and not only on Jail. EndHistory was once someone here but decided to turn into a full clown, so he's no longer known as the "former moderator", this thread should've came up right when they got banned for 1 day NOT after we completely countered every single trick of theirs, if you want to elaborate this with me/any other admin + EndHistory, then we can sort it out on discord and all your questions will be answered.
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Post by Ploggy on Nov 12, 2021 16:25:46 GMT
so basically what happened is that endo and his brother woke up one day and chose chaos. welp, some things became more clear at least. gl to endo
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Post by xxxendoxxx on Nov 13, 2021 17:08:12 GMT
We do not ban without letting that person know why he got banned. We've warned them numerous times, but how do you handle the "stfu bitch" in return? There was no way to have a proper conversation, he is aware that he made his brother his puppet, they were both just kidding around and being toxic until they went to the major rule-breaks ~ Mass Free-Killing/Insulting/Kicking people out of the server/Very toxic toward the staff members, and they eventually got banned for 1 day which was for nothing since they ban evaded right away and kept doing the same thing. Endo at that time was there to troll around, stress the mods out and also ruin people's experience on the server, I personally won't bother to talk to such people, there was no sign of improvement or willing to improve as they kept breaking most rules, and not only on Jail. EndHistory was once someone here but decided to turn into a full clown, so he's no longer known as the "former moderator", this thread should've came up right when they got banned for 1 day NOT after we completely countered every single trick of theirs, if you want to elaborate this with me/any other admin + EndHistory, then we can sort it out on discord and all your questions will be answered. In the beginning I was banned for back talking and didn't want to ask why and how because i knew it was a ban for personal reasons and that i could bypass it for it being unfair. Even after the ban of my whole country i didnt come for an unban straight away, i waited more than half a year so there could be room for some change and to make sure all of this fuss wont happen. So in my defense, i've tried to message noty and the other admins like a normal human being and try to befriend/reason with them. But in return they always completely ignore me or enforce the rules as i'm some type of monster. I would have never ignored any rules if the admins weren't as hostile as this for instance, when mami asked me for a favour in a server, i gladly obliged because i saw him as a friend. He then let me off to play in the server without bothering me for some time, which lead me to be thankful and at that time i was not breaking any rule and was not even rude to any player major rule-breaks ~ Mass Free-Killing/Insulting/Kicking people out of the server/Very toxic toward the staff members Lastly i have never mass freekilled. At most it'd be one player who is actually being toxic at that certain moment, as well as i wouldn't be insulting others for no reason i'm not that braindead, it was just for the other rude players which in the end was fun and games and it didn't hurt them. Kisses and hugs, endo bendo |
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Post by 69 on Nov 15, 2021 13:58:46 GMT
I've given some thought as to whether I should get involved in this application or not, but I'm pretty sure it's obvious what I've decided. If a word of their apology is true, would it really hurt that much to just unban the UAE, as a country, but keep Endo's personal application on hold, or reject it for the time being? Think of it this way, the UAE get unbanned, but Endo and his brother are not to join the servers for at least a month, to demonstrate that they do indeed have the willpower to improve themselves. And if they do succeed, perhaps they should be allowed on the servers, for some time, still banned, but even the smallest infraction of the rules should result in a permanent, and I mean permanent ban. If they don't violate the rules however, after some time, say another couple of months, then maybe their personal unban application should genuinely be considered. Of course, the final decision is up to the admins, but those are just my two cents, considering Endo and his brother might maybe, just maybe, actually be serious about this application, and that they're at least the tiniest bit genuinely sorry about what they did.
Again, as I said, this is just my opinion, and I fully understand if the admins don't want to go through that hassle, but considering the fact I'm still a moderator, and still do have some interest in moderating, although I'm not active at the moment, I'm willing to supervise Endo, if I am not stopped in some way, in the very unlikely event that this idea is accepted.
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