Ploggy
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Post by Ploggy on Nov 17, 2019 14:57:49 GMT
From what I saw today, I can only say that you moderate quite aggressively for a trial J-Mod and giving someone like you a Mod would be risky. It could be a better option to demote you temporarily until you learn how to handle situations properly. See the logs to understand what he did; my own messages are marked with blue color and I commented some information with double-slashes.
[14:48:47] ----- Server joined -----[14:48:51] * Auto Teambalance *[14:48:51] ��õ�� joins the Counter-Terrorist Forces[14:51:51] Akkixito connected[14:52:08] Report abusive VIP and staff members! Read F1[14:52:30] 1/5[14:52:35] ��õ��: Follow me![14:52:42] " (1x)[14:52:46] ��õ��: Last warning![14:52:46] ��丷 connected[14:52:48] U.S.G.N.: Ping/State 'playing'[14:53:04] ��õ��: full name?
//I brought him to the execution room.[14:53:07] Flavius: flavius[14:53:08] Don't freekill! Press [F1] for the rules![14:53:16] ��õ��: maximus flavius aurelius gaius?[14:53:26] ��õ��: hmm?
//He delays an answer, so I activate yellow button for a very short time.[14:53:39] Flavius: yes[14:53:43] Flavius: don't freeshoot
//He calls this "freeshooting".[14:53:49] U.S.G.N.: Ping/State 'playing'[14:53:53] ��õ��: dis?
//I point towards the yellow button.[14:53:57] Flavius: yup[14:54:02] ��õ��: this is free-electrocutting
//I brush it off with a joke.[14:54:08] Don't freekill! Press [F1] for the rules![14:54:09] ��õ��: use correct terminology sir[14:54:12] Flavius: free electrocutting again and you get staff killed[14:54:16] Flavius: same for freeshooting[14:54:24] ��õ��: ok, come arena[14:54:36] Flavius has joined the arena queue 1/8[14:54:38] ��õ�� has joined the arena queue 2/8[14:54:41] THE FREE FOR ALL ARENA HAS STARTED[14:54:49] U.S.G.N.: Ping/State 'playing'[14:54:56] ��õ�� killed Flavius with M4A1 [ARENA][14:54:56] ��õ�� won the Arena Battle
//I bring him to the arena and after we finish a new round begins.[14:54:56] " (1x)[14:55:08] Vote [F2 > Vote to kick] or !report <id> rule breakers![14:55:18] 1/5[14:55:48] ��õ��: can I kill you for planting the bomb[14:55:50] U.S.G.N.: Ping/State 'playing'[14:55:50] ��õ��: the mine[14:55:53] Flavius: no[14:56:04] ��õ��: why[14:56:08] Report abusive VIP and staff members! Read F1[14:56:10] Flavius: you can kill me just if[14:56:16] Flavius: i dont follow your drders[14:56:20] ��õ��: drders[14:56:20] Flavius: or i attempt to kill you[14:56:23] Flavius: orders[14:56:26] 2/5[14:56:27] emirhanozkavak322 connected //I bring him to the execution room again at around this time so that he could talk about our argument.[14:56:41] Flavius: dont press red button[14:56:41] ��õ��: but isnt mine harmful to me[14:56:44] ��õ��: as in, it can kill me[14:56:47] Flavius: bruh[14:56:50] U.S.G.N.: Ping/State 'playing'[14:56:53] ��õ��: you just attempted to kill me[14:56:55] emirhanozkavak322 has been kicked. Ping too high (7262).[14:56:55] emirhanozkavak322 has left the game (ping too high)[14:57:05] ��õ��: speak up
//He is delaying an answer.[14:57:08] Press E 2x for quick messages[14:57:17] Overdrive connected //I activate the yellow button because he is idling and not replying for almost a minute. Yet again, I keep the button activated for a very short time, which means that he took meaningless amount of damage.[14:57:26] Flavius: it's attempted kill just when it's did in a nearly[14:57:26] ��õ��: speak[14:57:32] Flavius: position[14:57:41] Overdrive joins the Terrorist Forces[14:57:51] U.S.G.N.: Ping/State 'playing'[14:57:53] Flavius: like i planted mine 1 block than you[14:57:57] Flavius has been killed for being idle
[14:57:57] Flavius died
//He dies from being idle.[14:57:57] McDonalds connected[14:57:59] ��õ��: uuhh but[14:57:59] Next Map: California jail v2.1.2[14:58:05] ��õ��: w8[14:58:08] There are 7+ Jail maps! [F2 > Vote a Map][14:58:10] Flavius: that's attempted kill[14:58:15] McDonalds joins the Counter-Terrorist Forces //New round starts and I open his cell.[14:58:17] Flavius: but not if i place randomly
[14:58:26] Flavius: around the map[14:58:38] Flavius: it is attempted kill even if the ct [14:58:41] ��õ��: Follow me!
[14:58:48] ��õ��: come
//I ask him to follow me, but he kills me with staff commands shortly afterwards.[14:58:49] Flavius: stays on it without knowin g[14:58:51] U.S.G.N.: Ping/State 'playing'[14:58:53] ��õ�� killed by Staff Kill[14:58:57] Flavius: this is for the freeshoot[14:59:00] Flavius: i warned you
//Flavius says he punished me for "freeshooting", by which he means when I activated yellow button in execution room for a millisecond, after he idled and did not answer for around a minute. He decided to punish me in the beginning of the next round aswell.[14:59:08] New Rules added regarding 'Restricted Area'! Press F1[14:59:17] Flavius: what[14:59:27] Flavius killed by Staff Kill[14:59:36] ��õ�� *DEAD*: why did you punish me though[15:00:27] Flavius *DEAD*: read console
Summary of what happened: I bring Flavius in the execution room where I briefly activate yellow torture button. Flavius immediately warns me not to trigger it again, or else I'll be staff-killed. In another round, I take him to the execution room again because I want to make him answer my questions when we talked, but after he does not say anything nor answers, I turn on the yellow trigger for a millisecond; only for enough time that he'd take maybe -3HP damage at max. He sees this as a legitimate reason to punish me and does it, but only in the next round. From where the logs end, I argue against the punishment, but he keeps defending himself and this staff-kill, even if he admits that he was not informed by the administrators if it was okay to punish people in round after whatever they did. I see three problems with this behaviour:
1. You cannot threaten players with staff-kills for little things like barely damaging you, even if you are right. I think it is at least questionable if your warning here was right to begin with - you are basically punishing me for roleplaying in a jail role-play server. In the same game, you used shaking command on another player for doing the same thing as I did, except that he did not receive a warning from you. So much for chill moderation.
2. I heard from an administrator in the past that you cannot punish players in next rounds, so it is pretty sketchy that you decided to staff-kill me in that manner. If anything, you had enough time to execute the command on me in the same round, but you waited just enough time so that this shorter round would pass and then punish me in the beginning of a new round.
3. To top it all off, you keep insisting this punishment was right and do not admit that you might've done this incorrectly even though you have not discussed this with administrators, or any other moderators beforehand. Stubbornness is not going to help you to learn moderating.
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Post by Elfing on Nov 17, 2019 18:27:32 GMT
This is not acceptable. Flavious, do you have anything to say about this?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2019 20:38:34 GMT
Good Morning/Evening to everyone.
1)My Communication and the mine
First of all,Ploggy,about your question regarding that i "attempted to kill you" is really questionable and i have many doubts about you since i know you as an old and respectful user of this community,my first idea was that you were testing me on my communication and you've got me on that since i was really surprised and the game was still going on.
I've been trying to explain all the time but since the chat couldn't afford a long ass sentences,sometimes those were broke in half and i had to think about the right words which is the reason i was delaying a couple of times your question,anyway i should really improve my communication.
By the way we shouln't had to discuss something that long in the middle of the gameplay,we were just annoying other gamers!
Since we both had discord,we had to use it,that's the point!
I'll show you below Noty's quote about this:
"That is something that happened in the previous round, and it should be let behind. Do we really need 5 rounds to clarify if that was a kill attempt or not?. This is a roleplay server. That conversation should've been held outside of the game. He simply brought you to the exectution room and made you confused about the situation, plus some "free-electrocutting"."
2)My "Abuse"
the log you linked is divided in three rounds which i'm gonna sum below:
1st round. I warned him to not freeshoot again.
You brought me in the machine for the first time,you asked my name,i answered and then i didn't notice your next message,then you damaged me with the yellow button (10hp),i warned you saying that if you made another freeshot with the machine i would have staff killed you.
2nd round. Talked to him about mine and didn't have time to punish him.
He brought me again into the machine because he wanted to talk about the "mine question",i "delay" one of his question because i'm trying to find the perfect words to explain him.
Then,this happens:after i delayed his question,knowing about the warn i gave him and knowing he couldn't do that,he press again yellow button and inflicts me again another 10hp and i die because i was idliing since i was just typing and not moving.
3rd round. i eventually punished him at the beggining of round.
Since i was still typing and someone texted me on whatsapp,i didn't had time to punish him on last round.
And then i did it at the beggining of the next round.
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I staff-killed you of freeshooting without listening the mod.
"[11:54:14] Flavius: free electrocutting again and you get staff killed
[11:54:17] Flavius: same for freeshooting"
Where did i learn this?
I learnt it from our loved Senior Moderator JRR10.
I was once moderating in the server with him and i see him warning a user who free shooted him at the moment,JRR10 told him that another free-shot would have resulted in a staff-kill (since JRR10 hided behind a wall and the ct could have do it again because he was continuos shooting) ,i told him about my oppinion regards what he did (i found it negative) and then he said to me to not teach him how to moderate.
Then i started to approve his way to moderate that situation, (i've done it twice including this since those were similar situations).
I admire JRR10 for his cold blood and common sense,he's really respectful.
For me,if my punishment gets judged wrong then i might think that is an attack to JRR10 (until he says otherwise).
Anyway i can't punish if it is linked to a past round,but since i did it at the beggining of the next round i consider it valid.
3)If i get demoted (i'll totaly accept it)
If i will get demoted i wanted to thank:
-Noty
-Slowpoke
-JRR10
-Elfing
-breathwox
-Kingakis
-xdGamer
-tatsumaki
-revange
-and many others for helping and supporting me! I did what i could have done in this month of moderating where i made a lot of big steps,ome of them is called "Mafia" i thank you all from the bottom of my heart!
Arrivederci. (maybe)
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Tanya
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Post by Tanya on Nov 17, 2019 20:53:52 GMT
getting electrocutting after delaying an answer is what that room for,
so that isn't a freeshot.
and planting a mine one block in front of a CT is an attempt to kill imo.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2019 20:55:31 GMT
i planted the mine in the middle of the tunnel of cell 2 and 1 while he was barely coming from ct base
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Post by Mami Tomoe on Nov 17, 2019 21:11:35 GMT
This is going too far, from a 5 minute (or less) time spent on reading this, this is my tl;dr:
Freeshooting is whenever you DAMAGE a terrorist for no apparent reason.
I don't care about the "terminology", Ploggy is just a tryhard (no offense, don't want another drama here).
Electrocuting is different though, since it's not meant to kill and is in actuality one of the rare cases where free-shooting is allowed.
Electrocuting is used as a warning for a terrorist, assume his health are like lives in a Mario game and every time he fails he loses 1, 10 in total.
This may cause confusion for new moderators, but IMO this isn't freeshooting if the terrorist was given the chance to answer.
I don't believe in wrong answers, you don't have to tell your real name and credit card credentials just to live another round.
Just an appropriate answer is enough (tl;dr: fuck you doesn't count).
The appropriate amount of time to wait before electrocuting depends on the situation:
If the terrorist doesn't speak English and/or can't answer due to valid reasons: It's dis-allowed.
If the terrorist can (and was proved prior) answer but wont, or he answers an invalid (read above) answer, you may electrocute him. *
If the terrorist had answered after or really close to the electrocute, it is not a freeshoot (note this is different from cases involving guns where it would count as such, since this is a roleplay-ier move).
Don't forget that this room is highly uncommon so we do need to allow more "engaging" and "fun" moments in there or else it will be abandoned like that snowball interrogation room.
*: This can either be until he dies, or just once depending on how much he was disobeying which should be decided by the CT, but moderated as well to not be abused.
Now, who's side am I on?
Neither!
Ploggy is overreacting and Flavius is just too inexperienced to realize that.
But honestly speaking, here's what went wrong:
Flavius felt anger towards Ploggy after getting killed by him, most likely - unsure.
Ploggy's ego is too massive to let a moderator do one mistake and get away with that, we must lose all our moderators! ALL OF THEM!
Miscommunication between the two also sparked a flame causing this to only go downhill until this is silenced by an admin.
- DAMN THE TL;DR IS TOO LONG GOTTA CUT SOME STUFF.
Staff killing shouldn't (but possible) happen over 30 seconds late, since when 30 seconds pass it's already forgiven.
Note that you SHOULD punish no matter how late you are, but that will cause more trouble than salvation if you punish someone 2 weeks after he freeshoot a terrorist.
So 30 seconds is enough, go for as low as you can basically.
Would I punish Ploggy in that situation? Probably not, but hey I didn't actually play in Jail for the past week or something, so what do I know.
Would I report Flavius in that situation? Probably not, but hey I don't have a high ego surpassing all expect-able egos formed by science, so what do I know.
TL;DR FOR THE TL;DR:
This is a pointless argument, at best I would demote Flavius for a week.
AT BEST.
Should this affect his application? Yes.
Should it reject it? No, just delay it. There's no point in re-applying, we know he wants Mod, just put it on delay.
The only reason I'm neutral is because: 1) I know Flavius wouldn't do any of this on purpose and he is just a little young for this. 2) Ploggy (being the annoying person that he is) is one of the few remaining elder (generation B) members that we have left, and he knows the rules quite well. He does over exaggerates sometimes though, like now I guess...
Note I only read like 30% of everything posted here, rest was skimmed.
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Post by NoTy on Nov 17, 2019 21:12:06 GMT
Well, first of all, you asked him "full name" in execution room and he answered after 3 seconds.
Where's the point in using the yellow button?
Yes, I know what full name means, but please...
If we stay and think for a little bit, this kind of conversations should be held in interrogation room, not in execution room. "Terminology sir"
What's the point of interrogation room then?
That room was created just for a jail atmosthere, not to be abused by people. I've punished many for abusing "Yellow and Red button"
About the 'mine' thing.
Okay, he told me he placed it inbetween cell 1 and cell 2 and you haven't seen him while doing this. I'm sure you wanted to give him a test so, therefore you asked if "can I kill you for placing the mine...?"
You surely wanted and made a circus on the server. We're playing "Fws Jail Roleplay", remember the rules. He's not obliged to answer questions that don't have anything to do with the server you're currently playing on.
Yeah but, you had to bring him to execution room to make the circus even funnier, is it right?
You knew this JMod is soft so, let's put him to a hard test.
This kind of conversations should be held outside of the game, you just keep playing your game.
I know you very well mate.
Didn't you think maybe he was typing something that takes a lot to write? Oh yeah, who cares, let's electrocut him right away.
This happens when he knows he's playing on the server and also has to answer to some questions.
That's why I said, this kind of conversations should be held outsids of the game to exterminate the stress or whatever.
Good actor.
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Post by Mami Tomoe on Nov 17, 2019 21:14:55 GMT
Excuse the double post, but I want this part to be highlighted now that I know more about the story. (Feel free to combine the two if you're feeling super-admin style.)
Planting a mine isn't a kill attempt unless the CT is nearby and it should be quite obvious when it happens.
Getting electrocuted after not answering, isn't a free-shoot (refer to my post above).
Warnings are allowed in there, for the role-play motives.
Similar to the NPC room, though there's one key rule: Make sure the terrorist is at full (or close to full) health.
Terrorist died from full in one of the two rooms? It's allowed.
Terrorist died from 99HP (or lower) in one of the two rooms? It's a free-kill. (That does depend if the Terrorist asked for health, which he has the full right to.)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2019 22:00:20 GMT
My job on the server for sure contains informing the new users,which i 70% did it.
When you first asked if you could kill me for placing that mine i answered simply that you couldn't,since it wasn't an attempted kill,but you moved this question all way over the limit,which made me fall in problems because at some point users started to be annoyed about the situation,people even asked to type in console "/kill" and i eventually went in spectator mode.
This is both's fault,i had to simply avoid it and we had to talk it on discord and it wasn't really necessary because you were just testing me.
I didn't even wanted to continue the conv and i said to report me so that an admin could judge this and im really glad you listened.
I've played with fire and now im paying the consequences.
Could you please send your log since the one i sent stops at some point so i can verify what i said?
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Post by Elfing on Nov 17, 2019 22:09:46 GMT
1st round. I warned him to not freeshoot again. You brought me in the machine for the first time,you asked my name,i answered and then i didn't notice your next message,then you damaged me with the yellow button (10hp),i warned you saying that if you made another freeshot with the machine i would have staff killed you. 2nd round. Talked to him about mine and didn't have time to punish him. He brought me again into the machine because he wanted to talk about the "mine question",i "delay" one of his question because i'm trying to find the perfect words to explain him. Then,this happens:after i delayed his question,knowing about the warn i gave him and knowing he couldn't do that,he press again yellow button and inflicts me again another 10hp and i die because i was idliing since i was just typing and not moving. 3rd round. i eventually punished him at the beggining of round. Since i was still typing and someone texted me on whatsapp,i didn't had time to punish him on last round. And then i did it at the beggining of the next round. ----------------------------------------- I staff-killed you of freeshooting without listening the mod. You are mistaken in thinking that using the electrocution room is the same as freeshooting a terrorist. They are not comparable. The purpose of the electrocution room is to electrocute terrorists for fun while they are being "interragorated". It's a gameplay element. That was abuse of power on your part when you "punished" Ploggy for using it. You were not answering the interragoration question asked to you, you cannot blame Ploggy for doing the absolute minimum to get your attention, which is to harm you for 10 HP. And he didn't even kill you, you got killed for idling.
For me,if my punishment gets judged wrong then i might think that is an attack to JRR10 (until he says otherwise). What JRR10 did was justified. He warned a player for freeshooting and punished him when he freeshot again. You claiming that us finding you guilty in this situation is an "attack" to JRR10 is absurd and insulting.
If the CT didn't even see you planting a mine, then yes that cannot be counted as an attempt to kill him. However, if the CT does die from your mine, you are held accountable.
I will be moving these posts to a separate thread and we will decide if any action needs to be taken.
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Post by Ploggy on Nov 18, 2019 10:50:30 GMT
After reading through all the replies here, there are a few things I want to clarify: for starters, I did know the mine which Flavius planted was not an attempt to kill me, therefore I did not threaten to kill him or shot him, but rather I started talking to him about it for a conversation. I think there is nothing harmful about asking a moderator some questions, so, that being said, I believe our argument about planting the mine isn't relevant to the actual problem. Flavius felt anger towards Ploggy after getting killed by him, most likely - unsure. Ploggy's ego is too massive to let a moderator do one mistake and get away with that, we must lose all our moderators! ALL OF THEM! Miscommunication between the two also sparked a flame causing this to only go downhill until this is silenced by an admin. I did not kill him at all (other than one time in the arena), so that is not what happened. Flavius might not be an excellent moderator but I do think he wouldn't just punish someone because he feels anger towards them. It's true I'm exaggerating, but Flavius'd not learn how to moderate the server unless someone pointed at his fault and told him what he does wrong. He could've kept aggressively punishing players for little and unnecessary things, staff-killing people and using his power incorrectly, but who would be happy with that in the end? The two of us talked about the punishment in-game, but we did not reach an agreement at the end. I told Flavius to ask other moderators or an admin regarding this, but since I'm very well aware that most of you would probably shrug it off and Flavius wasn't feeling like he wanted to continue our conversation, I decided to bring this matter to the forums (which he also asked). So, to make it clear for you and NoTy, I'm not reporting Flavius because "how dare he disrespect me and use commands on me?11?!"; This report should serve as a helping hand for Flavius to understand moderating and, besides that, it should bring light to problematic situations for all of us. NoTy, I brought Flavius to the execution room because there were other players in the game. I wanted to make sure that he would not get attacked or run away from me - that would get in the way of letting him answer my questions. My questions were not anything dramatic either.. they were just questions, how can they cause anything big? "You surely wanted and made a circus on the server" - sounds just silly. @flaviushomo I attached logs to this post. |
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Post by NoTy on Nov 18, 2019 11:51:12 GMT
The only reason why I participated in this conversation is that I wanted to protect Flavius as I promised him since the first day he got accepted. First time he brought this conversation to Discord on one of the staff sections, I also agreed with you. I saw he's a little worried about the situation so I decided to help him somehow by calming him down. He was really confused and I'm sure he felt guilty. This is not the first time when he does a mistake and he acts like that. Even though he's a new moderator, I already know him good enough. In terms of role-playing, yeah, execution room gives a jail atmosphere, you can obviously use one of the buttons, but also with a limit. You activated it for a very short time, yeah I told him, but you brought him out of his cell and obviously he had 100 hp before pressing the yellow button. There's nothing wrong withthat. He told me he was idling for 20-30 seconds, but I'm pretty sure you must be IDLE for at least 1 minute in order to be killed by the script. 'he asked me to answer his question
and i was trying to find the perfect words
ploggy was making me nervous''-Related to the mineThis is the moment where you brought him to the execution room. He was trying to find "the perfect words to answer your questions" therefore he was idling. I told him once, maybe he done that to wake you up...but didn't take this in consideration. While trying to find "the perfect words", he died from idling and eventually staff killed you, which was a bad move. About my post, it was really late for me, I had to work for like 2 hours outside, I was losing my patience with Flavius and I made it real quick. "You surely wanted and made a circus on the server" - sounds just silly. indeed yes. "You surely wanted and made a circus on the server" - sounds just silly. Indeed, yes. I exaggerated. '' He could've kept aggressively punishing players for little and unnecessary things, staff-killing people and using his power incorrectly, but who would be happy with that in the end?'' No one would be happy with that, it's good that you reported him. I should've listen to the "x" moderator when he told me to let him handle this alone. If he's worthy this position, then he can handle this by himself. Flavius, I considered you as a future SMod, but seems like we must have this kind of conversations every 2-3 days. I told you before to be careful and always keep your calm while you're on the server. It's just...so hard to find at least decent moderators nowadays. Good luck with not getting demoted. Ploggy taught Flavius a lesson, we can't just let this pass, he was overreacting yeah, but on purpose. If no one is going "slap Flavius", then his journey along us will be descendent. Sometimes people get what they deserve. prntscr.com/pyi7vkPloggy, if you want to clarify anything else, DM me on Discord, let's just wait for the final verdict.
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Post by Tanya on Nov 18, 2019 15:17:25 GMT
he delayed the first question for 20 seconds , so CT punished him (10hp),
then he delayed an answer again for 40s+, CT punished him again(10hp).
Flavius made a mistake by staffkilling him.
just warn Flavius or something..
isn't it this simple?
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Post by Mami Tomoe on Nov 18, 2019 16:59:32 GMT
It should be simple but this is Ploggy we're talking about, one mistake and you're dead to him.
That was a joke BTW.
But yeah apparently Flavius was in the wrong here, but this isn't abuse.
It's a mistake.
Demotion? No.
Rejection of current application? Maybe.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 17:38:44 GMT
I wanted to clarify something:
-Elfing,i didn't mean a direct attack to JRR10,i meant his moderation act (saying that another freeshot would result in a staff kill) and ypu said the eay he did it was exact.
About the machine,it's the first time this happens.
The one i mentioned above,in the first post i made,i got freeshooted by a deagle 1 week ago (like happened to JRR10)
'Til now i punished people that,or they stucked me in without reason (damaged me 'til death or exploded instant in machine room) or i got killed because i answered wrong to a question (example: in which date barack obama wanked for the first time?)
About the last one,i asked if it is possible to shoot/damage/kill anyone because the user doesn't answer ,kill if an user answers wrong.
I've been told that you can do these quizzes or questions but not to exagerate,
so this is the thing,everyone could interpetrate in his own way,i pretended that to not exagerate was meant to not in flict damage the user in any away.
So i invite senior moderators and admins to make your answer the more specific and less long your answers when someone is asking about the server.
No one ever told me about this rp part of jail and i guess i'll pay the consequences for not asking and for lack of informations,anyway i always asked when i had doubts (check mods channel and pm)
I was the most active moderator this first month of trial in the shoes junior moderator,as you can see i reported a big number of players,helped t banning 1 player and p-banned 4 players.
I mean,look,when i started,the more i was active,the more i helped and the more i learnt.
But that also applies to mistakes,people learn from their mistakes for sure:
I'm new and you all said it's okay i'm gonna make a couple of mistakes,and it actually happened like that one time i got warned and told that i had to call mods with higher rank than mine when something that i can't handle happens (when i kicked the multiconnecting freevoter a lot of times and i kicked out oops too a couple of times.)
,and i always did my best to handle everything with the limited power i had!
t banning that multiconnecting freevoting guy was an easier task than put on my leash and control an almost full chaos server!
Imagine that the second one i did it alone,in a right way,no help in 7 up to 15 minutes!
That's why i needed a promotion,tasks that can easily be done i couldn't do them due to the lack of permissions!
The abuse we are talking about isn't anything related to my emotions or feelings,i just acted so because i tought that was a broken rule and for that i did what i had to do!
I always repeated that i never put myself in the centre of everything,i moderate for the equality for everyone!
In this case it was my fault,i now can see it,thanks for telling me.
I want to put another quote to the thread:
"Jail server isn't easy to moderate,all mods do mistakes (jmod to smod)" -JRR10
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